and the results of the experiment…

8 09 2008

Ok. As for last Saturday… it was both good and bad.

Good because it was actually a fun night and i had a great time spinning. The vibe was good from the people who went and from friends who gave their support. It didn’t have the numbers but sometimes it does not have to be packed to the gills for it to have a great vibe.

Bad because it clearly shows how narrow or close minded most “rock” people are about dancing and for the most part listening to electronic dance music.  Just as expected, the local rock majority still has problems with it. How did i come up with this conclusion? Simple. The venue is a known place for bands and the radio plugs, even though bombarded by NU107 just reached local rock’s ears and despite Deep Fried the radio show airing every Wednesday, it really just started so still, the general rock audience definitely stayed clear last Saturday. Maybe it’s too simplistic an analysis but i think it’s accurate. Now, we’re not forcing it down your throats, it’s just an observation that’s quite an eye-opener, at least for me. It’s the opposite of what i experienced abroad where people from all sorts of background and music tastes actually do get down together in underground clubs and raves. Here, there’s obviously a division. The rock people go to rock events and gigs, the hip hop people go to hip hop parties and the “Tugs” go to the commercial clubs, raves and to gigs like Deep Fried last Saturday.  Yes, i know there are tribes but they do crossover abroad. Not here for the most part.  A bit sad but well, with the radio show, some will probably warm up to it and appreciate something new to their ears and eventually go to the next one. I’m counting on the rock community to be the ones to embrace it and make a real underground scene different from the average “party person” or the “Tugs” as they call them. Yeah, I’m still optimistic.

But No, we’re not going to change the venue as that’s precisely the point why Angelo (Saguijo) and us (Groove Nation) chose to do this. To get people who don’t normally go to clubs in the metro to enjoy electronic dance music and dance in a non official club environment wherein you don’t have to be dressed to the nines or rub elbows with social climbers. It’s purely for the music, the vibe and dancing in an intimate, small setting.

What makes it underground? Well, first and foremost, the music. It’s what sets it apart from the clubs who claim they play underground dance music. I don’t think i have to justify that. Those who go to Consortium or any of the parties before or just last Saturday can attest to it. No anthems, no trance, no proghouse, no cutesy stuff (Sorry but we’re purists). Just quality underground house and techno,the way we dish it out. Secondly, the atmosphere and feel of the place. Lastly,the type of people who did check it out last Saturday.

If there’s another thing good about this Deep Fried experiment is that last Saturday, we more or less got a sample of people who are really into it and they will be essential in influencing their friends that for November, the number doubles and so forth and so on. Congratulations and hats off to these people who can say they were there from the  very start.  Much appreciation also given to those who normally don’t dance but let their hair down last Saturday and participated in this electronic revolution. Same goes to the loyal GN followers, friends and some Terno bands like Up Dharma Down, Swissy, who gave support and participated in  the experiment.

We’re already bringing it to you people. Giving you an option from what’s the usual in this city. It’s up to you now to open your minds,ears and embrace it.

Next one’s November 29. You have more than a month to overcome your inhibitions and really, just have FUN and DANCE but with really GOOD dance music.

SPECIAL THANKS to Mario Benipayo of Forerunner Technologies for the RCF ART-325A and the new Cerwin Vega CVA-21 subs last Saturday. Thanks also to Audio Technica for our amazing ATH-M50 headphones.

Pics courtesy of Chico Limjap.



10 responses

9 09 2008

mann i was so ready for this. i already took a shower at 9 and started watching 24 for the first time to kill some time.. and I ended up knocking out. that show sucks. i woke up at 1 wondering if i should still go.. wompwomp

what i’m wondering..

is there a recording out there from saturday’s set?

9 09 2008

Unfortunately, we don’t record our sets but will keep that in mind for the next one. Uhm, is this Kevin?

9 09 2008

Seems like at was a success for an experiment!
Congratulations Toti!

10 09 2008

yup its kevin

21 09 2008
Jaime Tayag

I have to admit that among my 93.5 gig archive of underground electronic recorded live DJ sets are 2 of Toti Dalmación’s. I don’t know if I asked his permission but I have been sharing them over P2P…

21 09 2008
Jaime Tayag

I feel the need to butt into Toti’s mention of the differences between the music scenes here and abroad. Although my love for electronic music began in this country in the early 90’s, it developed further in Europe and reached maturity in the US. I consider myself extremely privileged to have been able to experience the American underground electronic music scene. It probably won’t surprise any of you that I was always the only Pinoy around, and I went all over New York, Massachusetts, Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, California, Baltimore/D.C. to hear my favorite DJ’s spin. I noticed how I was the only one repping us, and other people told me stuff like, “oh I knew another Filipino in the [rave] scene, maybe 4 years ago? Yeah, there really aren’t many of you guys around”. I don’t know exactly what is behind it but the vast majority of us are instinctively drawn to mega clubs and DJ’s like tiësto, Van Buuren, Van Dyk. This instinct is so overwhelming that the Pinoys I attempted to educate by exposing to more underground club nights that featured the likes of Derrick Carter, DJ Dan, Doc Martin, some Drum n Bass never really “got” it. They would never go on their own to see these guys. I don’t think any of them came with me a second time. They didn’t hear the difference between John Acquaviva and Paul Oakenfold but Oakenfold was what “everybody” was supposed to like, so they went en masse to see him and his kind. The underground was too ghetto for these guys, who were anyway stuck in a “can’t really dance because I’m in Gucci heels and if I sweat my make-up will run and besides dancing like you do is just so ghetto, Jaime, you know that, don’t you, that’s why you do it…..”
Needless to say I quickly gave up on all kabayans I encountered in the US when it came to electronic music. It just seemed fundamentally impossible to shift paradigms from the “he’s Paris Hilton’s favorite DJ, oh yeah he’s Ministry of Sound, what are you wearing, everybody’s gonna be there, oh good I can wear my Rolex there and nobody will jack me for it” to the “who’s spinning, have you heard him before, do you have any of his sets in your computer, will there be room to dance, will this night be underground enough so the mainstream fuckheads & club trash won’t be there eating up dance floor space standing around in heels?”

21 09 2008

Good observation right there Jaime. Come to think of it, while there were many Asians, mostly Chinese/Japanese, there weren’t that many Filipinos in the raves then. I don’t know about nowadays but yeah and i’m still trying to figure it out myself why. That’s a definite add on to the many factors we’re up against with as it seems to be not in our culture and the majority, the type of people you describe just go with the flow, usually with the shallow part of it. Hence the really commercial stuff, just like how they will flock to Chicane,cough cough.So, generally opening up Pinoys ears and minds to it can be quite an uphill climb. More than a decade for me now introducing and again re-introducing with Deep Fried. I honed in on the rock crowd though because we’re doing it in an established rock venue and Deep Fried the radio show is on a rock station but as you can see it’s a challenge i present to just about everyone here.

And yes, i long for the day when the majority learn to be more discerning and ask “who’s spinning, have you heard him before, do you have any of his sets on your computer, will there be room to dance, will this night be underground enough so the mainstream fuckheads & club trash won’t be there eating up dance floor space standing around in heels?”

See you in November!

25 09 2008
Jaime Tayag

There’s a little amendment to my comment about no Pinoys being in the underground music scene in the US. It’s slowly coming back to me now that in the SF Bay Area there were bongo/hand drum players who would drum up voluntarily alongside DJ’s at outdoor parties and smaller clubs. The result was such honey to the ears and it made for a higher-octane fuel for dancing. Half or more of the people drumming were Pinoys.

25 09 2008

Yup, that for a while became a thing here as well in the mid 90’s when you have percussionists jam with you while DJing. Cyril and i were lucky, the one who played with us at one gig was Mari Teves, a good percussionist who knows when to stop and when to start, to lead and when to stand back. Also understands dynamics. On the other hand i have experienced others who just banged away and made it sound more like a train wreck. But yeah, well, Pinoys have rhythm and that’s why i expect more to dance at the next one hehe.

28 02 2020

interesting topic here.

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